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Old 12-11-2008, 03:17 PM
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I'm wondering what you all do with regard to your mail programs. I've recently changed servers and I had a nice program, but now one that's not so good. I understand there are other avenues, I'm just not certain what they are exactly. I want to keep my same addies intact, is there something I can include in my new host or does it have to be external, and how would that work?
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Do you mean the program you use on the server to manage your email accounts?

Or are you talking about the email program you use to retrieve and read your emails?

And there's no reason why you can't keep the same emails.
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Right, I mean specifically that I used the Horde mail program. It was suggested to me that I use a program like Thunderbird, which I downloaded last night but haven't installed yet. Is it self explainatory when I install, or is there something I need to know with regard to setting it up through my host.

What programs do you all use?
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I use plain old outlook express. Never have any problem with it, so why bother with anything else?
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Right, I mean specifically that I used the Horde mail program. It was suggested to me that I use a program like Thunderbird, which I downloaded last night but haven't installed yet. Is it self explainatory when I install, or is there something I need to know with regard to setting it up through my host.

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You'll need to know the addresses of your SMTP and POP servers, as well as your email address and password.

In order to find the SMTP and POP addresses, search the website of your Internet access provider. There should be an Email/Help page somewhere on their site.
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You'll need to know the addresses of your SMTP and POP servers, as well as your email address and password.

In order to find the SMTP and POP addresses, search the website of your Internet access provider. There should be an Email/Help page somewhere on their site.
Thanks titmowse, I've been trying all configurations with Thunderbird, can't get it to work to save my life.

I tried setting up Squirrellmail, I can send mail but can't receive it. I'm four days behind without my business mail, somethings amiss and I don't have a clue...
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You need to talk to your host and ask them what your mail server is. Sometimes it will be your domain name with mail in front of it like this: mail.domain.com Other times, it's something else.

You must have the outgoing set up right.
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Doesn't your host have some type of a web email where you can read your emails automatically (like gmail and yahoo style) even if you're not setting up your outlook style retriever correctly.

You need to contact their support now, either by phone or however they do it. The mail server is probably building up. This should be pretty seemless and painless to transfer over to a different host.

Honestly I'd just stick with microsoft for email sending and retrieving. It's the one program they've created pretty well in my opinion.
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Doesn't your host have some type of a web email where you can read your emails automatically (like gmail and yahoo style) even if you're not setting up your outlook style retriever correctly.
Sorry for ressurecting this thread, but does anyone have experience with 'Squirrelmail'?

Either way my problem has to be a configuration on the server, I get an certificate authentication notice everytime I start Thunderbird.

Anyhow, lots of research to do, changing servers has brought many headaches..
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Sorry for ressurecting this thread, but does anyone have experience with 'Squirrelmail'?

Either way my problem has to be a configuration on the server, I get an certificate authentication notice everytime I start Thunderbird.

Anyhow, lots of research to do, changing servers has brought many headaches..
I have squirrel with dreamhost on an account i just transferred from godaddy. I never use it though. I use outlook.

Your problem shouldn't be with squirrel. It problem has to do with how you configured your email account with your hosting account you transferred to.

It's going to be much easier to contact your host because it should be a simple procedure even a phone monkey can walk you through by reading it off their teleprompter when you call or contact
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I have squirrel with dreamhost on an account i just transferred from godaddy. I never use it though. I use outlook.

Your problem shouldn't be with squirrel. It problem has to do with how you configured your email account with your hosting account you transferred to.

It's going to be much easier to contact your host because it should be a simple procedure even a phone monkey can walk you through by reading it off their teleprompter when you call or contact
The problem is in the server for sure, I can receive mail through Thunderbird, but can't send. I can send mail through squirrelmail, but can't get any incoming mail.

I went back and forth with my host about 10 e-mails, I don't want to wear out my welcome in the first week, I'm just a ten scent a month ham & egger, hosts are really looking for the dedicated server crowd. Plus, I would be remiss as a webmaster if I didn't go out and turn over every stone for the discovery on my own. However I am at wits end, I just need someone to point me in the right direction. I had Horde with my last host, I set it up perfectly in no time and it was great. Time hasn't been on my side the last couple of weeks, at least I can get my mail...

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The problem is in the server for sure, I can receive mail through Thunderbird, but can't send. I can send mail through squirrelmail, but can't get any incoming mail.

I went back and forth with my host about 10 e-mails, I don't want to wear out my welcome in the first week, I'm just a ten scent a month ham & egger, hosts are really looking for the dedicated server crowd. Plus, I would be remiss as a webmaster if I didn't go out and turn over every stone for the discovery on my own. However I am at wits end, I just need someone to point me in the right direction. I had Horde with my last host, I set it up perfectly in no time and it was great. Time hasn't been on my side the last couple of weeks, at least I can get my mail...

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Well, wish i could help you, but all hosts are a little different. But you shouldn't be worried about bothering them no matter how little you give them because in theory it's supposed to grow into something bigger one day. They should be bending over backwards to help you and it shouldn't even take this long. Some of the worst support in the world is from Godaddy and they would have had this problem fixed in about ten minutes on the phone if it took that long.
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Well when I first got an account with ATCI I had a few problems. Even now, every time I send an email I get something like "this certificate is unverified, do you wish to use it anyway?"

I just push yes each time. Also, in my outlook express I had to go to the advance tab and click "this server requires secure authentication" or something like that.
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Well when I first got an account with ATCI I had a few problems. Even now, every time I send an email I get something like "this certificate is unverified, do you wish to use it anyway?"

I just push yes each time. Also, in my outlook express I had to go to the advance tab and click "this server requires secure authentication" or something like that.
I have problems with ATCI E-mail i can only receive. I've wen't back and fourth with them and they cant duplicate my errors?

So i only use my ATCI mail for conformation and have a separate account for everything else.

Why not jump on the bus with everyone else and just use G-Mail? you can send mail as anyone as long as you confirm it.
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Why not jump on the bus with everyone else and just use G-Mail? you can send mail as anyone as long as you confirm it.
I prefer the domain extension in my addy, but I am going to look into g-mail as an alternative. I've got a little laundry of tweaks and glitches I've got to go over, changing hosts is not all it's cracked up to be, but I'm not at all displeased with my new company. So the holidays should be big fun with going over my '03, '04 taxes and trying to solve my server issues. It only means come 2009 I'll be hitting the ground running, ready to take on the world fresh, new site, new attitude, new everything...

Thanks for the input everyone, much appreciated..
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I prefer the domain extension in my addy, but I am going to look into g-mail as an alternative.
What i meant was you can verify any email address with g-mail and then send your mails out as the verified address.

example....

you set up your g-mail and verify an email address (lets say webmaster@superporno.com). G-mail will send you a conformation mail, you click the link, and then you can send mail from the g-mail admin as webmaster@superporno.com
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Thanks balls, I did not know that, could be a quick cure for my e-mail ills...
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, changing hosts is not all it's cracked up to be, but I'm not at all displeased with my new company.
It shouldn't be that big of a deal. I would be EXTREMELY DISPLEASED, and always am, when a host starts jerking me around with one issue or another. It's the reason I started spreading out my hosting like I did my sponsers.

Don't keep all your eggs in one basket. That goes for hosting too.

Balls, I can't believe people with ATCI have email problems considering all I hear is people jerking off over the support and the extra cash they charge to supposedly not have to deal with those issues.
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Balls, I can't believe people with ATCI have email problems considering all I hear is people jerking off over the support and the extra cash they charge to supposedly not have to deal with those issues.
I've always had the e-mail issue with them, but what do i care about e-mail? I use one address for everything anyway and contact forms on all my sites. Their response to issues that actually affect me is top notch.
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