SEO Question About BackLinks

[SteveHardeman]

OK, I'll try to write this understandably.

Let's say I have 10 blogs across 5 IP's. 2 blogs per IP.

And let's say I'm looking at buying some incoming links(blog posts) from a guy with 25 blogs across 5 IP's. He's selling blog posts on his network of 25 blogs.

He's offering a blog post on every blog for a certain price. He'll allow you to write 5 separate blog posts and link them wherever you want. But one blog post is going to go on 5 blogs on one IP, one post on another block of 5 blogs on one IP and so on to 25 total blogs.

Now, my thinking is that I don't want 5 identical blog posts on 5 different blogs that are all on the same IP. My thoughts are that that would look funny to google.

I would rather only have 5 blog posts total. One on each IP.

However, he's got each group of 5 blogs feeding off the same database so when he posts to one blog, the post shows up on all 5 blogs on that IP.

I addressed that with him and his reply was:
if they come from the same ip then it wont be hurt just like if you have got a sitewide link on your site you will get many link from the same ip

Thoughts?

[balls_deep]

if he has 5 blogs using the same feed i would bet that he has the same traffic feeding each site, which is almost the same as just using link directories for traffic.

do you want traffic from this trade or google value?

[SteveHardeman]

Google value is the most important thing. Any traffic would be an unexpected plus.

I'm obviously buying links if anyone happens to read this and has a good deal on some.

[balls_deep]

Originally posted by Luvin
Google value is the most important thing. Any traffic would be an unexpected plus.

I'm obviously buying links if anyone happens to read this and has a good deal on some.

you didn't just request a paid link on my blog did you? Just wondering because i'm ignoring it.

for google rank... ip's are not supposed to matter, but if you change them they sure do matter. as far as static sites it should count separately.

[SteveHardeman]

you didn't just request a paid link on my blog did you? Just wondering because i'm ignoring it.

Didn't even know you had a blog.

I don't understand your reply. Did it answer my question?
If someone takes one blog post and posts it word for word on 5 blogs that are on one IP, will that look funky to google and will they then penalize me or give me less credit for it?

[balls_deep]

an easy way to check would be to lookup the PR of the pages you will be advertising on. As long as they all have PR google should count the links like any other.

[porn punk]

Balls, how does changing IP affect google?

I know it effects traffic from tgp's and certain links lists because their script bots will dump you, but I've changed dozens of times just to try out different hosts and didn't really feel much of an effect. Granted they were with sites that were falling off the radar so maybe that's the reason.

I'm not saying it doesn't, but I just had it done to me now once again by Godaddy (without my knowledge or planning for it) with sites that were starting to pick up again so I'll keep you informed.

Luvin, I think Balls is ignoring the link request because google is supposed to penalize for people selling links. Also I'd be more concerned with the traffic back from the links you were purchasing than how they will help you on google, but that's just my personal experience.

Also, why does someone have 5 identical posts on five different blogs. I could never understand that concept. You have to at least add keywords or alter some of the writing. I even do that with my own posts on different blogs I think apply to different niches?

Most of this stuff I'm asking are more questions than any statement I'm trying to make so proceed accordingly.

I can say that my blogs drop off google and pick up again all the time over and over for no clear apparent reason at all. I sort of see google as chasing your own tail if you're trying to get any actual specific page position for anything really competitive.

[balls_deep]

Originally posted by porn punk
Balls, how does changing IP affect google?

I had a blog getting about 1200 uniques a day from google and changed host. The SE traffic dumped to less then 200 a day as soon as it was moved.

[porn punk]

Originally posted by balls_deep
I had a blog getting about 1200 uniques a day from google and changed host. The SE traffic dumped to less then 200 a day as soon as it was moved.

Usually whatever I move has already dropped that low so that might be what I thought.

I will let you know though because godaddy just fucked me good by changing servers with a new ip on a site that was gaining back ground because of a new site I was trying to push with this cross over niche.

I'll let you know if the same happens. I had no choice in this matter and have all kinds of stats counters on the site for comparisons.

[cink2]

Originally posted by balls_deep
I had a blog getting about 1200 uniques a day from google and changed host. The SE traffic dumped to less then 200 a day as soon as it was moved.

So you have changed host (DNS,IP) not only IP. It tooks a bit of time until your DNS change will propagete to other servers. Sometime it's few hours or even few days. So if google can't access your site for few hours or days you loose your rankings, that's streight. Google won't display site which doesn't work.

[cink2]

Originally posted by Luvin
OK, I'll try to write this understandably.

Let's say I have 10 blogs across 5 IP's. 2 blogs per IP.

And let's say I'm looking at buying some incoming links(blog posts) from a guy with 25 blogs across 5 IP's. He's selling blog posts on his network of 25 blogs.
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The most important thing is price! It depands how much does it cost.


If you buy this links because of SEO

I will give you those tips: There is one rule, the more links you have the better. IP adress or duplicate content is doesn't matter. Just check those blogs in google and view those blogs very carefull. And after that wonder if your posts on that blogs will get indexed by google. If yes buy those links, if not just fuck it.

(there are very many factors and I won't describe them because my english is very bad and it would take me hours to write it).

[timelord]

Google are well aware of the technique of purchasing links from estbalished websites/networks leading back to ones site. They are also aware that the links are not always relevant so will naturally account for that when defining a sites PR.

If 5 of his blogs share the same IP, and list the same blogs - Google will very likely quantify this point and treat it accordingly. If he's doing the same for 4 x other IP addresses each with 5 identical posts then Google will see know and address this fact. Keep in mind this method has been abused by webmasters since page ranking first hit the scene way back.

Inbound links have a high value if originating from relevant sources, uses hypertext contaning relevant keywords etc It's the quality of the links not the quantity of the links that matter.