Newbies...are you lazy

[blacknyt]

Hey newbie, how you doing...

Are you on here looking for the right answer to your search to porn fame...well let me tell you how to get it!!

Seriosly...

1.you, when I say you, I mean YOU. have to have a empire.

2.what is a empire, it could be a lot of tgps(500+)or blogs(100+) all connected.

3. what do i mean by connected... i mean ALL your blogs in someway link to your other blogs (or tgps)

4. thats it, they can be ugly tgps or beautifully descriptive blogs, but if you put the volume out and you have some common sense you will i would bet be making about 6 to 9 hundred dollars a month in about 6 months...


to get rich give yourself time, learn google analytics like its the sports page, learn your sponsors, and ask them for help.



ABOVE ALL IF YOU ONLY HAVE 1 BLOG OR SUBMIT TO CHAMELLION ONLY "WHEN YOU HAVE THE TIME" GET A SECOND JOB.

you will be happier with your second job...i promise

[phuckbunny]

Good points. I'm actually guilty of slacking lately in respect to building more sites & blogs.

It has been mentioned on a few threads that sometimes you could get hurt by interlinking all your sites too much.

Any opinions?

[sunfunbill]

You can make just as much, likely more spending all your time on just 5 or so quality blogs then a guy with 900 blogs.

[blacknyt]

I would say that sounds right...I am far far from marketing porn the optimal way...I use the method "if you build it, they will come"

my strategy...um not all but close.


1 company
1 blog for each of their websites
tgp for all the girls
try to be not stupid in the case of seo
keep track as much as i can of traffic

end product:
20 to 40 blogs
300 to 600 tgps

all seperated by niche as much as possible,niche is the MOST important thing... i link the blogs and tgps together and basically forget them forever.......not smart, but works for me!

[blacknyt]

oh, before i forget.. dont start out using free hosting...the teen flix link in my sig...is an experiment

with that said, only start out with hosting and subdomain

live by the rule "only get tools for the business with money FROM the business"

[phuckbunny]

500 TGPs and 100+ blogs sounds like a lot for a return of $600-900 per month.

Bill, 5 quality blogs, or even 1 quality blog can be as succesfful or more so than hundreds of splogs but... it's best to cover your ass with more stuff floating around the blogosplogosphere, I'm starting to think.

I have to agree with blacknyt that niche is indeed highly important though there are also ways to cross market stuff.

[porn punk]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
500 TGPs and 100+ blogs sounds like a lot for a return of $600-900 per month.

I was going to say the same, but I guess it all depends. Plus you have to take flucuations into account. I do much better than that with far less, (unless you mean galleries instead of tgp's and maybe I'm finally getting near that number with the splogs).

Originally posted by phuckbunny
or even 1 quality blog can be as succesfful or more so than hundreds of splogs but...

In my personal opinion, that better be one hell of a blog, and/or you better be one "really important" motherfucker and/or have something really worthwhile to sing about and/or have some really really really good sponsers who don't give a crap what you put on your blog and/or at least have the double standard in your favor.

My emphasis would be mostly placed on the "and's" as oppossed to the "or's"

Like I said though, just my personal opinion.

[porn punk]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
Good points. I'm actually guilty of slacking lately in respect to building more sites & blogs.

It has been mentioned on a few threads that sometimes you could get hurt by interlinking all your sites too much.

Any opinions?

I've never noticed this personally and I interlink a lot of sites (including sub domain splogs that often do me better than my main domains).

The only times I notice huge drops in traffic from things I do, is:

1) adding posts to blogs when they are actually starting to pick up in traffic thinking that another (keyword conscious) post will make things that much better (this usually results in the opposite)

and:

2) moving my blog from one hosting account to another and thus changing the isp when it becomes so traffic heavy it starts affecting other domains on my hosting (this has the worse adverse effect and even causes me to lose tgp and link list listings for particular domains).

[timelord]

You can make just as much, likely more spending all your time on just 5 or so quality blogs then a guy with 900 blogs.

Agreed. Quality beats quantity.

For me the equation is:
Produce as many quality blogs as you can manage/automate. I don't start with a number of blogs to build, I start with an intention to obtain quality traffic which I can convert into quality sales.

The blog number is arbitrary if the blogs in question suck and don't convert to $$$.

[Hammer]

Sounds like too much work for too little return to me. A single TGP or blog should be able to easily make that much money within six months if the webmaster knows what he's doing. Throwing a ton of shit on the wall and hoping a few pounds will stick is the reason the Net is flooded with too much free porn.

[mynameisjim]

The goal should be to get ONE blog that works well, gains traffic, and converts. Once you figure that out you can start to build more.

Don't build 900 when you haven't even had one that worked or you may end up with 900 that don't work.

Back to the restaurant analogy from another thread. I don't think any restaurant owner would build hundreds of the same restaurants out of the gate. Generally, you build one and when it's successful, you try to duplicate it. Blogs are no different.

[porn punk]

No, no, no, no...

It's all about paying the rent and the extras.

If you can do it with one blog great.

Probably you can't

[phuckbunny]

I don't think you can without some marketing investment. Recall all our talk about fleshbot being a 'good blog'. That's like saying the NY Times is a good example of how to start a daily paper. One blog to do exceptionally well will need a lot of extra marketing to get it going to that level of success.

[timelord]

I don't have any aversion to having hundreds of blogs. I have an aversion to webmasters posting hundreds of crap blogs.

The goal should be to get ONE blog that works well, gains traffic, and converts. Once you figure that out you can start to build more.

That's the key. Focus on getting one right, then build on that original formula.

[porn punk]

I find it hard to believe anyone in this thread is surviving on one blog and one blog alone.

[Hammer]

Porn Punk. How many blogs do you have and are you making a living from them? And yes there are lots of people with a single blog that someone could consider making a living from but most of them don't want to just make a living so they have more than one. But where did you see anyone suggest that you should LIMIT yourself to one blog? It seems to me that what's being said is to take it slow and make sure you know what you're doing and have a blog that is making MONEY not a LIVING before you crank out another one.

The majority of sploggers that have 100 or more blogs are still not making a living and probably never will. They followed advice like blacknyt is giving thinking that the secret is to keep banging out shit blogs and eventually you'll make money. How would anyone make money from even 500 blogs if none of them got any SE traffic? Splogs that use RSS feeds will get a little traffic for a while and the webmaster will get excited and start throwing them up as fast as he can and then suddenly the SE traffic slows to a trickle and will eventually stop completely once all of them get banned for SE spamming. And yes, if you use RSS feeds for your blogs they will get banned eventually because you're using the same exact text as hundreds of other webmasters.

BTW, I have a few sites that make enough that someone could survive on the income from just one of them. And if you reread what I said in my last reply, I said that someone should easily be able to make $600 to $900 a month with a single properly done blog after six months. I don't know of many people that could make a living on that amount of money, but that wasn't my point.

The point is why bang out 500 splogs to make $900 a month instead of making that much from one well done blog and then making more well done blogs. 10 well done blogs that produce $9000 a month in income makes far more sense to me than 5,000 splogs.

I'm still trying to figure out why any webmaster would encourage newbies to throw up 500 splogs when all that will accomplish is to fill the Net with hundreds of thousands or millions of shitty blogs that the rest of us that actually like blogging will have to compete with.

Have any of you analyzed what he's saying? Do you realize that he's suggesting that you create blogs that are intended to make $2 each a month? WTF?

[porn punk]

I hear you, Hammer. But I do think there's a time you make your second blog or splog or whatever you want to call it and then move on to a third and such.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other as long as the cash totals to what you need at the end of the month and eventually you'll end up getting more.

I don't know where all this SE banning stuff comes from. I've had blogs up for a few years now and no doom and gloom and they're making me money, not a fortune, but it all adds up. Also if you're afraid of being banned by the search engines, that's even more of a reason to put up more and more stuff on more and more domains so if one does get banned you have the others.

Again, I don't know where this banning comes from except for from individual sites that don't like you.

On the other hand, I'd like less competition too, but i'm certainly one of those people probably making lots of messes out there because I like to try new things and things other people probably wouldn't try because they've been trained traditionally.

Personally, I am one of those who think you should put up as much stuff on as many different domains as time permits or you can stand mentally, just to cover yourself if nothing else. Plus I think you should use tons of different sponsors and tons of different hosts (haven't started on this yet, but aim too).

I've also lately started getting interested in black hat (but that's another story)

But like i said i do understand your points.

[porn punk]

Just one more thing, and I apologize for being so argumentative for no reason.

I am presently cutting back on all the junk I put out, but mostly because i've put out enough that I'm getting what I need returned to me monthly without doing much.

Now, I want to get smarter and maybe a little more respectable too (webmaster wise I mean). But I think his way works and it's mostly what I was using up until recently without really having a choice.

If you don't know that much, you still need to start somewhere until you learn more and his way to me is as good as any unless someone personally gives you a formula for success AND it pans out.

[Hammer]

Take the time to read what I write.

I said if you use RSS feeds for your blogs and if you have lots of blogs chances are good that sooner or later those domains will get banned because the same exact text will appear on hundreds or thousands of websites that the affiliates that are using those feeds on and Google is well known for banning sites that share the same text.

[porn punk]

Originally posted by Hammer
Take the time to read what I write.

I said if you use RSS feeds for your blogs and if you have lots of blogs chances are good that sooner or later those domains will get banned because the same exact text will appear on hundreds or thousands of websites that the affiliates that are using those feeds on and Google is well known for banning sites that share the same text.

Believe it or not, I take do actually read what you write (maybe I should take some more time), and I do respect your opinion more than most people in this forum might think.

I don't think any webmaster unless he's a complete newb is pulling raw feeds and not altering the text. If so, he's a dumb ass and will be fixing things up sooner or later or bailing out of the industry.

I'm not sure if this is what you're getting at or not. I'm a simpleton and I'm not being a smart ass about that