The irony of it all!

[sunfunbill]

I now have two adult crossdresser blogs. One of the top search phases you can get is "crossdresser porn". I'm nowhere near the top in google for that.

BUT, on my mainstream Bilinda's blog, I made one stupid post discussing the problem about porn and the transgender community.

It now is #5 on google. Not the 5th page, the 5th link! But I can't really do much with it. I have made the picture I put on it a clickable one that goes to an affiliate.

Maybe I should put a little more text in it, saying if you are looking for real crossdresser porn click here or something like that.

But, should I make the link go to my adult crossdresser blog, or an affiliate? I think I should not link to my other site, I have always wanted to keep them apart.

But would I get more chance of a sale by them going to my adult site since they would have many sites to choose from?

[Hammer]

Why do you treat Bilinda's blog as mainstream and why are you trying to keep them apart? What's mainstream about cross dressing? I seriously doubt that anyone that is into cross dressing is going to be offended by porn advertising. It's not like there are many Bible thumping cross dressers out there. It's a sub culture that for the most part stays in the closet until they make the decision to affect a life change and go from being a cross dresser to a transexual.

If I was you I'd sprinkle in some CD porn ads and an occasional porn site review and typical porn blog type posts with thumbs and link to FHGs on Bilinda's Blog. I'd make Bilinda the personality behind the blog and talk about her life, her interests, her desires and also her passion for helping the transgender community. You will always have a better chance of making money from a blog when there's a real person that people can identify with behind it.

Is it inappropriate for Bilinda to talk about trannies as well as CDs? My tranny sites convert better than any other niche right now so could you also benefit from occasional articles about a hot tranny or a tranny site review? You'd get the SE traffic to the post but also possibly pick up some regular readers that trust your opinion and come by for your reviews and tranny picks of the week or something.

[sunfunbill]

Hmmm, thanks for the advice Hammer. So your saying that most who crossdress and come to Bilinda's site would not be offended by a few adult ads here and there. Or at the least they would understand and not get pissed off.

For the most part your right, most understand that sex is always a part of,,, hell anything! However there are some, mostly transsexuals, that get very upset about any reference to any type of porn dealing with them.

The reason is, they are trying to be taken seriously and so look at adult sites as another example of how their "cause" gets downplayed and trivialized.

HOWEVER, I am not going to make any money off them anyways, right? I want to keep it a good and informative blog, but the bottom line always is, I'm doing it to try to make money.

As for the tranny niche, yes there is a cross over to that for crossdressers. In fact most CD sites use tranny/shemale/ladyboy traffic for their CD sites. So I could throw out a few here and there. Most CD's are bisexual or at least bi-curious.

I suppose I might lose a few "righteous" readers by carrying a few adult banners, but again I'm not making anything from them anyway, right?

Well thanks again Hammer, I will think about it. If I just have a very few adult ads, a post every once in a while about some adult site, maybe a webcam ad and so on, it would be ok and still be a site most would think of as non adult.

At the very least I could talk about that stuff and get the seo hits like you said, then with a few well placed ads direct them to my other blogs. Thanks!!

[Cozy Monica]

I think that if you are sure there is an audience out there that won't appreciate the porn end of things, it may be good to have two seperate blogs. On your Bilinda blog though, you would only make money by referring people to companies that sell products that crossdressers want... lingerie, clothing, shoes, makeup, enhancements, etc.

I think that Hammer is possibly right though, and there may not be a lot of crossdressers who are super offended by the porn.

And, if you are ever finding it hard to maintain two blogs, the best plan would be to do the one as Hammer has suggested.

He's absolutely bang on about how having a personality that people like and trust will help you sell things.

[Hammer]

Trannies that take themselves so seriously that they are offended by tranny porn sites can fuck off for all I care and that's the attitude I would take if I was running Billinda's Blog. You're a CD, not a tranny. You support transgender's right but the primary focus of the site is ordinary (mostly) men that like to dress up in women's clothing. I guarantee you that you'll get a much larger audience and make far more money if you cater to your core audience and let those that are offended go someplace else, like, oh I don't know... church maybe?

For me it's the same as the double standard that Google has with Adsense. They shut down Hammer Uncut. WTF? Take a look at the site, there's no porn anywhere and I've even gone with a more mainstream header than the thong butt shot. I comment primarily on things I read in the news and yet they claim my site is of an adult/mature nature. Bullshit. BUT, the ting that really kills me is the ads that show up on my sites for penis enlargement pills, premature ejaculation creams, and all kinds of things that are highly adult in nature and sure as hell don't belong on a "family friendly" site. If sites that catered to a mature audience didn't exist, what logical places should those kinds of ads appear on?

I'm still laughing at the idea of trannies that are offended by porn, especially tranny porn. The men that join those sites obviously like trannies so why would a tranny be offended instead of flattered and relieved to find out that there are actually lots of men that find them sexually attractive?

P.S. I agree with Monica that you're best profit potential is in advertising things that cross dressers will be interested in buying, but cross dressers like porn too, so I sure wouldn't avoid it and personally, I'd keep the flavor of the site humorous and sexually charged and not take it too seriously.

[sunfunbill]

Ahh, I see what your saying. Yeah, if I keep it like it's going now, the only way to make money is by google adsense. But damn, most of my clicks are 2 to 6 cents each!!!

For some reason the stuff that the ads are about are very low paying clicks. I assume because there is not much competition in the transgender stuff.

Whereas my new leather blog is getting 60 cents to over a buck each. Well thanks, I'll think things over and slowly introduce a bit of adult stuff here and there and see what happens.

[porn punk]

Originally posted by Hammer


For me it's the same as the double standard that Google has with Adsense. They shut down Hammer Uncut. WTF? Take a look at the site, there's no porn anywhere and I've even gone with a more mainstream header than the thong butt shot. I comment primarily on things I read in the news and yet they claim my site is of an adult/mature nature. Bullshit. BUT, the ting that really kills me is the ads that show up on my sites for penis enlargement pills, premature ejaculation creams, and all kinds of things that are highly adult in nature and sure as hell don't belong on a "family friendly" site. If sites that catered to a mature audience didn't exist, what logical places should those kinds of ads appear on?

Did they spell out any specifics for this? I'm a little surprised after what I've seen google adsense ads on that they would go after that blog. Do you think it's possible some of the others are getting a smaller amount of traffic and not being noticed yet? What the hell do they allow, real estate and financing?

[Hammer]

They singled out this post. http://www.hammeruncut.com/big-condoms-or-tiny-dicks/

It's a news story that appeared in several major publications. There is no foul language, no adult images, and it's about condoms which our children are taught about in school in the fucking 4th grade.

It's been over a week and I've emailed twice asking for a better explanation but have been ignored.

Maybe Oprah complained about this one. http://www.hammeruncut.com/oprah-cal...ame-for-penis/

[sunfunbill]

Yeah I don't understand that. Go here and see where google ads are:
http://urnotalone.com/main.php

It's a big transgender site, they have pure adult banners and even had a porn section at one time on their site.

When you go to it, unless it's a rotating banner, you see google ads to the left, then a big "transexual domination" porn banner at the top!

[porn punk]

I suppose they won't let you just delete that particular post and let bygones be?

[Hammer]

Originally posted by porn punk
I suppose they won't let you just delete that particular post and let bygones be?

I guess that's not the only post they have a problem with, they just used it as an example. I've had this happen before and removed the offending post or banner and they reinstated. This time they have ignored me.

[mynameisjim]

Originally posted by Hammer
I guess that's not the only post they have a problem with, they just used it as an example. I've had this happen before and removed the offending post or banner and they reinstated. This time they have ignored me.

All I can think is this post may have certain racial overtones to the very, very sensitive.

But that's why I have no problem artificially manipulating the Google serps. They have no ethics when it comes to swinging their weight around in arbitrary ways.

As for adsense, I stopped loving it many months ago and every month I love it less.

The smart pricing has gone out of control to where no matter what page I run ads on it goes down to a few cents per click. The most I get is like 6 cents. If I wasnt so lazy I'd remove it all. The only time I get decent clicks is when some dumb ass just signs up for adwords and uses the google guidelines to set up his bid, or at least that's my guess.

I doubt when I get a 3 cent click that the advertiser is only paying like 9 cents for that click, especially on terms like "mountain bikes". That dude is paying more like 70 cents at least.

[sunfunbill]

I hear you there Jim. I've had some clicks that said the click was like a total of 5 cents, and they did not give me even 1 cent, nothing!

The last time I used google ads you had to pay at least 10 cents per click. But, I have been pleased so far with the clicks on my leather site. I've had a low of 6 cents and a high of $1.50.

I wonder what kind of items would be really high? Would car ads make a lot? If you had a blog about race cars I bet all those hot rod parts places, engine stores and all that would pay quite a bit. What about even new cars? Or motorcycles?

I also have thought about a blog on hosting companies and software. I bet they pay high.

[balls_deep]

Originally posted by sunfunbill
I wonder what kind of items would be really high? Would car ads make a lot?

diamonds, fur, leather, lawyers, the same things that have huge ads in the yellow pages.

[mynameisjim]

The problem is you will get the high click prices at first, then you will be smart priced down. My clicks all started at around 60 cents as well but over time they fall even though you are running the same ads. I know for a fact the advertisers aren't paying 90% less suddenly.

The key is to always build new pages and new sites advertising different items so you avoid the smart pricing. Just another thing that fuels the MFA sites.

[razor]

I wonder what kind of items would be really high? Would car ads make a lot? If you had a blog about race cars I bet all those hot rod parts places, engine stores and all that would pay quite a bit. What about even new cars? Or motorcycles?

One of the highest paying keywords is for mesothelioma , other good ones are drunk driving lawyers , any credit card keywords, loans ,

[Hammer]

Well I'm not personally totally against Adsense. Like you guys, I've seen very low click payouts when I use it on my blogs but I have an auto site that averages something around $.30 per.

[porn punk]

I actually can't judge adsense because I don't do mainstream at all. But as I try to further capitalize on porn, techniques I'm discovering along the way are making me reevaluate my position on mainstream.

Still not quite ready yet though and don't see the mainstream going anywhere too far away just yet.

I certainly don't approve of anything that censors, especially in the roundabout way they seem to be doing you, Hammer.

[sunfunbill]

Well, I've decided I'm making tomorrows post a poll on if anyone would mind me adding a few adult banners and a post now and then on the sites.

Frankly no matter what they say I'm going to do it, but it looks nice, and I am curious as to what the responses are. I am wondering about something now.

I have google adsense in every damn post. If I just have a few adult banners in the sidebars, and make just one post a week that is of an adult nature, could I keep the google ads there?

Or just go all out and just get rid of google and make a post every few days about a porn site?

If google bans one of your sites for the adsense, do they also ban other sites you have it on, closing your whole account?

I'm just trying to figure out the best way to do this if I'm going to start adding a little adult stuff in that blog. I have to admit, unless google does something weird that site would be gold for seo words.

[mynameisjim]

Bill, if you are going to test some overtly adult material on your site, I would say to remove the adsense to be safe.

Sounds like your leather site makes some cash with adsense and you don't want to risk a ban.

Some people get a warning but others get banned for life.