TGP guidelines for dynamic content

[deshg]

Hey everyone,

I am just creating some tgp galleries (using my own content) to submit to some tgps and had a couple of queries that i hoped you might be able to help me with. Obviously there are the standard rules in terms of number of pics/max number of links/recips/ads etc and also not changing content on a page once it's been submitted and not submitting the same galleries more than once. I am creating a tgp page which lists 4 models and displays 3 or 4 pics of each with a little bit of info about them (so total 12-16 pics).

My first question is: Is there a problem using a lightbox to display the tgp images? Most tgp guidelines state the thumbnails must link directly to the image and not another html page so i'm not sure if this could fall under that even though all i'm doing is displaying the correct image in full. I could imagine with the tgps that automatically scan submitted galleries it might reject it on that basis and i don't want that to happen?

My second question is: Can i use a template page for all tgps? Within my tgp.php page can i have a variable that defines the tgp, so maybe ?site=nngalleries or ?site=tigerteens in the url, which would then display the only the related recip ads etc for that tgp. Then i could submit tgp.php to all tgps, but with different site variables. Ultimately i could then copy this page to a new page once a day, change the colours and content and resubmit the new version (again using the site variable to define the content). I would really appreciate any pointers from you guys, as i'm worried i'm overcomplicating it and that's going to cause problems, but i would prefer this as it prevents having different pages for each tgp for each submission.

Finally, and i guess this is somewhat how long is a piece of string, how long do you find you should leave a gallery live after submission before removing it as no one is linking to it anymore, or do you just try and leave them up for as long as possible?

Thanks so much everyone, your help is massively appreciated,

Dave

[balls_deep]

#1 - if http://site.com/thumb.jpg does not link to http://site.com/big_image.jpg but rather http://differntsite.com/big_image.com most TGP scripts will reject you.

#2 - you actually want different pages for each TGP. It will allow you to track your traffic and listings more efficiently. I'm not sure TGP's are going to list *.php files. Most require .htm or .html.

3 - I keep my galleries active for eternity. Even once they aren't listed anymore you can get some SE traffic from them since google should have picked them up by the time they're dropped from the TGP. Many TGPs also keep archives so your gallery never disappears.

[deshg]

Thanks so much for your speedy reply, a couple of follow ups:

I didn't realise there were any restrictions on the type of page that could serve up the tgp gallery, i didn't find anything in any of the guidelines i read saying they have to be htm/html files. Is this definitely the case? The main reason being i was going to use php to update my database to track the number of visitors/related visits to the actual site etc?

I understand what you're saying about different pages for traffic analysis etc, but i can do all of that within one page using the site variables i discussed earlier and presumably using the same page (following on from your reply) means that you're more likely to get listed highly on google for that tgp page as multiple tgps would be linking to what google saw as the same page? If you see what i mean! It also means i have one new page per day, rather than one new page per tgp per day, which means a huge number less, especially if they're being left for eternity (which i guess isn't really that important!).

Another question:
Do you resubmit the same content after a while? I am reticent to make huge amounts of content free via tgps which i will do if i add a new page with different content and leave it live every day. Do you reuse content after a certain period of time, or do you try and keep it pretty much new each time?

Thanks so so much for your help, it really is much appreciated,

Dave

[balls_deep]

If you insist on using a PHP page I say go for it for a single gallery. See who will accept you and who will not. I would not submit a weeks worth of galleries though as it might get you blacklisted if the TGP won't take php files.

TGP/MGP sites can be sticklers for rules, even ones not listed in the "Rules"

It is fine to reuse content about once a month. Just make sure you change the thumbs and the templates.

I honestly think your trying to reinvent the wheel with your PHP approach.

By creating multiple .htm(l) pages you actually increase your google listings as the recips become part of your content adding to search terms. I don't think dynamic PHP files will provide the same SEO.

[deshg]

Hmmm okay thank you very much for your points. One last question, which i'm pretty sure i know the answer to, but i'll ask anyway! I currently hide all of my images behind a php script to prevent hotlinking and fuskers etc discovering their actual location. I assume this would cause me to be blacklisted by most tgps as they would think i'm linking to another page even though the php script on the same domain is actually just displaying the image?

I assume i need to copy the files to an accessible location and link directly to them? Would you imagine using a lightbox would cause a problem as the link is still to the image but it isn't actually opening by itself in a new page, it's overlaying the current pageT

Thanks again for your help,

Dave

[deshg]

Sorry and one more question while i think about it. If you are using htm(l) files what are you usin to track your visits/conversions etc? The reason i ask is i am using this to advertise my own site, a significant amount of it free and i usually use php to update my database re: traffic stats, but this isn't possible within html? Do you just use affiliate tracking software eg ccbill?

Thanks,

Dave

[balls_deep]

I understand your reasoning behind trying to integrate everything into a PHP script, I just have a feeling that you are going to run into submission problems with TGP scripts as they check the galleries and can reject them before anyone (human) even gets to review them.

I track my hits using a combination of my server stats and NATS from various programs.

The server stats tell me how many times an HTML page is viewed (gallery views).

And sponsors NATS show me what my click through ratio and where sales are coming from.

Again, I think your trying to reinvent the wheel with this one.

I'm not familure with lightbox so i can't give you any help there.

[porn punk]

Balls has pretty much covered everything, but to over simplyfy it even more, a lot of tgp scripts are so sensitive that if you move your site to a different host, they will dump your galleries and even blacklist you because you changed either an ip or html as far as the tgp script is concerned.

Basically you want a clean html page with 16 to 24 images (depending on tgp rules), a couple links to affiliates and a few tgp links (depending on tgp on rules) at the top of the page.

Basically

[theviking]

Build it and forget it.

The same goes for both galleries and freesites, unless you are a hardcore freesite builder that will change links to all those that wont list you.

IMO thats a waste of time.

[balls_deep]

Originally posted by theviking
Build it and forget it.

The same goes for both galleries and freesites, unless you are a hardcore freesite builder that will change links to all those that wont list you.

IMO thats a waste of time.

I concur

[trulymadly]

Not meaning to bump this thread, but thought I should mention

A good reason not to use lightbox is because you will need to place the javascript on each one of your gallery. TGP owners don't like seeing script tags. As matter of fact, even some paid advertising sellers don't accept it too.