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Old 02-28-2008, 08:02 PM
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Free Site or TGP Site?

www.xnxx.com

Is this a free site or a TGP site?

Anyone willing to give me a difinitive definition of the difference between the two?
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:34 PM
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That's not a freesite. It's a bit different from a normal TGP but I would call it a TGP.

A freesite is not really a "site" as the term is known. a Freesite is generally 4 pages: a warning page, a main page that links to two galleries, then the two galleries. You build a ton of them and submit them to link lists. They aren't really a site but instead a grouping of pages.

A TGP is a "site" with thumbnails that link to different individual galleries, some galleries are put up by the owner and sometimes they are submitted by webmasters either for free or by paying for the slots.

It's all free for the surfer so don't be confused by the "free" part of freesites.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:39 PM
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What Jim said.

Looks like a closed/fake TGP that links to sponsor FHGs, meaning it's a one man operation and hence different from a TGP which accepts gallery submissions.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:06 PM
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I'm so freaking confused!?!?!?!?!?!

I think I'm going to get out of porn and become a geothermal philanthropic gastrointestinal paleontological doctor studying the scientific affect of laser beams reflectology on worm holes.

That would be easier.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:14 PM
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How come no one is suggesting that he try a blog? He would learn all about seo, FHG, rss feeds and all that and make a few bucks the fastest way.

Then if he ever went back to trying to make a paysite again like he did he can use blogs to make traffic.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:41 PM
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Thanks MyNameis..

Let me see if I have this straight.

Any old domain name
warning page
main page linking to two galleries.
page for gal1
page for gal 2
submit to LL's?

Do another one.

How many total do you recommend doing?

One for BJ's, one for anal, one for bukkake, etc?

Sign up for affiliate relationships and put their links on the 4 pages of each free site?

Submit every one to LL's?

Link em back and forth amongst each other?

Does this mean I need to go buy 50 domain names?

Or is there a way of doing this with one domain name?

I started making www.freeandsleazy.com but it appears I was headed in the wrong direction.

SunFun, in one of my other threads, someone did recommend a blog. Since I'm less lost on Free Sites than I am on blogs I decided to do this first.

MyNameIs, I'm looking forward to your response.

Thanks.

Steve
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:18 PM
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Freesites don't each have their own domain. You just put each one in a different folder on a domain you already own. For example, if you build a blog on blowjobs.com you can put your freesites on that domain. As many as you like. Or you can buy a domain just for all your freesites and galleries. Each freesite generally promotes one specific sponsor or paysite. Freesites have a very specific template you have to follow so don't just make one randomly. Someone posted a link to an article here (I think Hammer) on how to build a freesite. If you do a quick search I'm sure it will turn up.

Personally, I'm more of a blogger/SEO guy than a submitter but each one works and most people do a little of both when starting out.

You may have better luck starting with a blog since they really work out of the box and then you can modify them as you go along. Plus you can just dump your freesites on that domain.

Check out http://www.wordpress.org for the software you can use for a blog and to get it setup. You host may even install it for free as most do these days.
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Re: Free Site or TGP Site?

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www.xnxx.com

Is this a free site or a TGP site?

Anyone willing to give me a difinitive definition of the difference between the two?
that is a category TGP..
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:12 AM
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If you go with freesites, pick ONE niche, then pick one sponsor. Then start making some freesites. Experiment with layouts, content, and banners and text. See what works for you.

You have to learn how to get traffic to these sites, and then start converting that traffic into sales.

It's a learning process and a half. But it's good!
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Old 02-29-2008, 04:40 PM
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Whoa Whoa Whoa...before you go buying domains after domains and putting 4 page free sites up on them...here is how a free site works


YOURDOMAIN.com is the main url that you own

a free site is one of many ..tens, hundreds, thousands that can be built on one domain. Each free site goes into its own directory on your domain

YOURDOMAIN.com/freesite_directory1/
YOURDOMAIN.com/freesite_directory2/
YOURDOMAIN.com/freesite_directory3/
YOURDOMAIN.com/freesite_directory4/
YOURDOMAIN.com/freesite_directory5/ and so on...

each directory gets :

1 index page
1 main page
2 picture or video gallery pages

AND THATS IT

index page consists of the adult content warning and can have upto 3 outgoing links to sponsors or where ever along with 6-20 reciprocal links to Link List Directories

main page has the same 3 outgoing links max. with a link to each gallery page (gallery 1 and gallery 2)

gallery 1 and gallery 2 each have 12 images or 3 video clips and upto 3 outgoing links to the sponsor that the gallery is highliting


Once that is created you will need to find a list of Link List Directories that you can submit the site to. Each one of them will require a reciprocal link on your free sites index page.

Good luck and happy creating.
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:05 PM
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Like Shemp said, it's a categorized TGP but it's also a "free" site as in not a pay site.

I think it's important to differentiate between a "free site" and a "freesite". The latter is as Jim described but a "free site" can technically be anything from a TGP to a linklist to a blog or any other kind of site you build that is designed to promote a pay site.
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A free site and a "freesite" is two different things.

A "freesite" is what is explained above, and have to follow rules to be accepted after it is submitted to linklists.

A free site is simply youre site wich contains of free stuff for youre users to click on youre ad's(allso known as MFA sites). Youtube is a free site.

I hope that was helpful...if it was not my adress is :



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Old 02-29-2008, 07:38 PM
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Isn't that what I said?
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Isn't that what I said?
Sorry Hammer... i was'nt reading the thread.

I think i just duplicated what you said..
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I'm so freaking confused!?!?!?!?!?!

I think I'm going to get out of porn and become a geothermal philanthropic gastrointestinal paleontological doctor studying the scientific affect of laser beams reflectology on worm holes.

That would be easier.
I think you’re getting too much into the "get rich quick" mentality. It almost seems like you’re fishing for that “porn pot of gold”, but it’s like you’re just trawling the ocean floor hoping to catch scores of fish, largely relying on luck, without really having all the necessary tools and knowledge that you need to really be successful. Then you’re basically saying, “Hey, I’m not catching anything this way, so let me try it like this”. Then it’s, “Well, this isn’t working either so let me move over here and do it like this”… all the while throwing money out to different places and not getting any returns, or even taking losses on things that you probably could’ve avoided. This is just my impression from your posts.

Imagine if you took the time to research and learn things from the ground up. You could get the necessary knowledge and wisdom to be able to know how to catch the type of fish you’re looking for, and thus dramatically increase your odds of success. Try slowing down and taking things gradually. Learn how to fish in the lake out back before you go out into the ocean competing against the seasoned professionals. I think it will save you a lot of time (and money) in the long run.
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:30 PM
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You all sucks each other's cocks.

Kidding, I couldn't resist. If you don't get it search on "suck each other's cocks".

Ledrak, I couldn't agree more. You are correct. I'm flying around in a million different directions. This is a lot tougher business than I thought. Bet I'm not the first person to speak those words.

I've already made the decision to slow things down and learn from the ground up.

Here's today's plan(subject to change on a moment's notice:-))

Build some free sites to promote my own pay sites.
Forge 2-3 affiliate relationships and promote those sites as well. (goal is to compare signups at my own sites with those of others to guage popularity of my own sites)
Do a blog - I liked Hammer's idea of blogging about being an ameatuer porn producer with the occasional license to imbellish a bit.

I think I can write some humorous stuff so we shall see.

All of these items take time but not a ton of money.

I would be working on this all day tomorrow but I have two beautiful girls who are going to pillowfight for me in the nude for 15 mins before they go down on each other while I film it. What are you doing? I had it scheduled before I came to reality on this industry so I figured what the hell, let's go ahead and shoot it.

Thank you all for your help. This board has been a blessing. I hope I learn enough to pay it forward one day.

Thanks.

Steve
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You all sucks each other's cocks.
Mine is quite small...it shouldnt be too hard for you
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:08 AM
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Build some free sites to promote my own pay sites.
Forge 2-3 affiliate relationships and promote those sites as well. (goal is to compare signups at my own sites with those of others to guage popularity of my own sites)
Do a blog - I liked Hammer's idea of blogging about being an ameatuer porn producer with the occasional license to imbellish a bit.
Sounds like a solid plan but when you start your blog, be sure to rely on your spell checker a llittle more.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go suck my own cock.

P.S. Firefox has a built in spell checker that underlines misspelled words as you type and when you right click those words it gives you the correct spelling.
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go suck my own cock.

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