To Blog or Splog that is the Question...

[jonnydoe]

This comes up here often and I have been compiling data and thinking about it quite a bit lately. First, you have to define a blog and a splog. IMO, in their purist forms a blog is a true clean personal web-log and on the other side is the free-hosted porn blog on a free host. There are very few blogs that fit either of these definitions. Matt Cutts has a blog that is pretty close to a real blog...although subliminally he is pumping the big G. On the other end of the spectrum you have the thumblogger free-hosted blog that is not really much more than a gallery submission...you make up a sub-domain, throw in an RSS feed and submit the thing to every known planet.

Hammer says that 'blogs" are now the new TGPs and although they are different animals he is quite right. I think splogs are the new CJs... So what is the difference between a TGP and a CJ? A TGP is more friendly and for sales and a CJ is about traffic...

So...if you are after direct sales go the blog route and if you are looking for a traffic building system go after the splogs.

Otherwise, maybe the answer lies somewhere between. Maybe you should blog with some feeds to keep things fresh and easy and put some effort in with your own unique and original stuff?

[sunfunbill]

If there is one thing me and Hammer agree on, it's that we both hate splogs. Most people make splogs, in fact it seems like 95 to 98% are just splogs.

Now then, are you asking what should you do as far as what makes more money? The less time? The less effort? Long term staying power? There is no one answer.

You can throw out a hundred splogs and make money. You can make one good blog and make the same. What one do you want to do?

At this very moment I am working on a crossdresser adult blog. It's going to be a real blog, about 20 to 30 pages, hundreds of post. I will have 3 to 5 real post about crossdressing, how to, tips, general life as it goes stuff.

Then in between them will be my FHG or movie post, maybe a post about the newest Ladyboy to join a site, a toy review, a book review, a new DVD title, da da da.

I also will have a site review page, a general porn page divided into categories , a gallery and forum! OH, and several more pages of stuff.

I am going to make buckets of money on it!! But, maybe not as much as a guy with 700 splogs. But, one good blog is what I WANT to do, so that's what I'm doing.

Point, both work. A real blog gets more seo traffic the longer it's out there. A splog does not. Do what you want.

[phuckbunny]

Jonnydoe, I'd agree with most of everything that Bill said. I guess I'd add that in my own confusion about this matter, I have come to define a splog as a real crap looking blog with shoddy spammy borderline illiterate copy,

However, according to a more standard definition, and certainly according to google's definition, a site that uses a blogging software platform which is intended solely to make money from affiliate marketing is a splog - and that considering the volume of such probably covers 99.5% of adult blogs.

On my end, as you can see from my previous neurotic threads about related themes, I was bitching my butt off about how it was actually my "real blog" which I tried to keep about a 1:4 or 1:5 ratio of 4-5 real articles to 1 blatant affiliate plugs and somehow I became loathed by google so I'm going to try and do another project like that yet once again and see where it goes.

So really in the porn world a splog vs blog really does draw a fine line. You'll be making your income through affiliate marketing either way - one way subtly through banners one way more blatantly through reviews and plugs, and what not; I think google defines you as a splog if you use other ways to make $ other than adsense.

BTW I'm not sure what you mean by CJ in re to splogs. In mhy understanding, CJ is a short-term money making scheme in order to sell crap traffic to traffic brokers who can in turn sell that traffic to "I'll be the next Hun" webmasters who are starting TGPs.

[balls_deep]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
In mhy understanding, CJ is a short-term money making scheme in order to sell crap traffic to traffic brokers who can in turn sell that traffic to "I'll be the next Hun" webmasters who are starting TGPs.

that's not my definition of a CJ. CJ means circle jerk. A huge run around to affiliate pages or a traffic scheme with no rhyme or reason.

kind of like a blind link bonanza

maybe im wrong?

[phuckbunny]

Well, yes it's a huge runaround, you use it in TGP scripts and set skim to 100%. Click on a thumb and it takes you to another TGP, click on a thumb on that one and it take you to another and so on and so on, so everyone who participates in that circle jerk ends up with an insane amount of worthless traffic; then you can sell that traffic to take it to another 'just starting out' TGP and no one makes any money from sponsors except the people who run the CJ TGPs and they make that cash from selling that CJ traffic, get it? It took me a while to understand it but I reckon it's pretty much an obsolete thing and very annoying to the surfer which just breeds more ill will towards paying for porn on the surfer's side IMO. I also don't see the connection with blogs/splogs which I had thought refrain from traffic trading - since I can't even imagine how that would work.

[LincolnLog]

Any blog you start with the intention of making money (IMO) is a splog.

IF you want to start a blog about a personal interest and add some google ads, with the focus only on blogging and making money is totally secondary then you have a blog.

All splogs are not created equal!

Set up a wordpress site with autogenating (canned) content and you have your basic run of the mill splog.

Handwrite good reviews of your sponsors content and you still have a splog!

BUT - they are very different.

[Cozy Monica]

I don't really understand what the confusion or arguments are about.

Any kind of blog, regardless of it's content, has a purpose. There are very high quality blogs that have the potential to earn a LOT of money, and there are very low quality blogs that have the potential to create a LOT of traffic.

Both are tools for the adult webmaster.

I do agree that there are a LOT of poor quality blogs (splogs if you prefer) out there that aren't worth the ones and zeros they're made of.

But who cares, that's how the web has always been. There are billions of websites out there, and how many of them truly have real value, either as far as the webmaster sees it or the surfer sees it?

When it comes down to it, you have to decide what kind of blog is going to generate the results you want to see, and give it a go.

[Chang]

Originally posted by Cozy Monica
I don't really understand what the confusion or arguments are about.

Any kind of blog, regardless of it's content, has a purpose. There are very high quality blogs that have the potential to earn a LOT of money, and there are very low quality blogs that have the potential to create a LOT of traffic.

Both are tools for the adult webmaster.

I do agree that there are a LOT of poor quality blogs (splogs if you prefer) out there that aren't worth the ones and zeros they're made of.

But who cares, that's how the web has always been. There are billions of websites out there, and how many of them truly have real value, either as far as the webmaster sees it or the surfer sees it?

When it comes down to it, you have to decide what kind of blog is going to generate the results you want to see, and give it a go.

[mynameisjim]

Splog seems to be a bad word but how is a splog worse than a freesite, a gallery page, a doorway page, or any other page an adult webmaster builds.

I'm just curious?

[sunfunbill]

Splog seems to be a bad word but how is a splog worse than a freesite, a gallery page, a doorway page, or any other page an adult webmaster builds.

Well I suppose the more people talk about it, the more it seems like it is just another tool.

But in answer to your question Jim, I will tell you my personal feelings. The original intention of the whole blog thing was a kind of personal diary for very vain people.

Then people started noticing how great it ranked in the seo"s, and everybody jumped on board. If I was making TGP's I would not say "well I have a quality TGP and you dont" becuase a TGP is one thing. Link list is one thing, a doorway page is one thing.

BUT, a person trying to make a good, quality blog gets lumped in with a guy making a 10 post splog. Imagine the guy who made WP, looking at all the rss fed crap splogs using his software. I bet he's not happy.

It just seems like taking the fine china to use as garden tools. I wish there was a different ,, I don't know,,, section, name or something for the two.

But your right, any tool for the net can be used for anything, and no one should have a problem with it. We all reap what we bang out! So I guess I should not care.

So I don't want to hear anything more bad said about Zango, torrents or spyware.

[jonnydoe]

I think ideally you should have at least one good solid blog and then have some splogs to try to capture some traffic for it. Similarly you can have a real TGP and feed that TGP from a CJ system. I do reviews of splogs frequently and most of them suck but they can have a purpose...

[crockett]

Originally posted by jonnydoe
I think ideally you should have at least one good solid blog and then have some splogs to try to capture some traffic for it. Similarly you can have a real TGP and feed that TGP from a CJ system. I do reviews of splogs frequently and most of them suck but they can have a purpose...

exactlly.. use the slogs to get sales but also to build up a few more quality sites. In the end they are all splogs as others have posted.

[phuckbunny]

Well that brings up the issue of interlinking your sites too much which everyone is divided on and I could never get a formative answer on that subject.

Here's an example of a splog that wanted to exchange links with me. I would think that there would be a minimum level of literacy involved even in splogs but apparently Babelfish English is A-OK. Hilarious:

"Swears-dirty during sex are very fashionable: America and Europe already does use fool language in their bedrooms. Start never too late, but is not an easy blatantly expressed in the mother tongue, while avoiding offensive tone for the ladies.

Sado - Somewhere inside you sleeping man, rapist and villain. In issuing he visits. Beat girl optional, but if it is not opposed, though do look, if without a trace refuses to join with you in intimate relationships. A pair of apartment communities and stormy finale ensured."

http://dvdsextoys.blogspot.com/

And OMG, I just missed the best part - today's post which begins with:

"Three young attractive men (2 girls and one guy) accidentally met in reception room of famous healer. "

How do you define "men" these days anyway? Cracking up as I write this.

[LincolnLog]

Originally posted by jonnydoe
I think ideally you should have at least one good solid blog and then have some splogs to try to capture some traffic for it. Similarly you can have a real TGP and feed that TGP from a CJ system. I do reviews of splogs frequently and most of them suck but they can have a purpose...

If your blog is your focus and generates traffic then why would you then turn your traffic over to a splog and expect it to convert better then your blog?

Why not just blog and try to convert from there?

What is the reasoning behind feeder blogs? Build some great blogs, so you can feed traffic to a not so great splog?

I thought it should be the other way around, build some splogs to feed a blog. The conversion on a blog would be better, and you would put in less work.

Get past whats its called, and Hammer has said this many times... and I think I have it right.
But, if your interested in blogging, then go mainstream and go for the google money. Unless you have something really unique to share with the adult world ( and i think sunfunbill is on the right track) you are just doing the same thing that everyone else is doing, and the sales are drying up from over exposure and too much free content. On the other hand, I think there is still room left to run a high quality blogs/splogs that are well optimized with good handwritten posts - and make some sales. Time + Effort + Traffic.

In the opening post, the term splog was defined as "free-hosted porn blog on a free host"

Im not sure that definition is broad enough. I have a splog, I pay for hosting and 8 out of ten articles are 100 percent hand written, the other two I take the time to rewrite the rss feed from a few select sponsors (I cherry pick and then rewrite and add my own touch)

To splog or not to splog, that is the question!
You define how your splog is going to work.

[jonnydoe]

Hey Lincolnlog I think you misunderstood my post or I wasn't clear enough. I was talking about having a one good solid blog with feeder splogs generating some traffic for it...not the other way around.

[jonnydoe]

Now that is a classic Porn Splog Phuckbunny...

[crockett]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
Well that brings up the issue of interlinking your sites too much which everyone is divided on and I could never get a formative answer on that subject.

Here's an example of a splog that wanted to exchange links with me. I would think that there would be a minimum level of literacy involved even in splogs but apparently Babelfish English is A-OK. Hilarious:

"Swears-dirty during sex are very fashionable: America and Europe already does use fool language in their bedrooms. Start never too late, but is not an easy blatantly expressed in the mother tongue, while avoiding offensive tone for the ladies.

Sado - Somewhere inside you sleeping man, rapist and villain. In issuing he visits. Beat girl optional, but if it is not opposed, though do look, if without a trace refuses to join with you in intimate relationships. A pair of apartment communities and stormy finale ensured."

http://dvdsextoys.blogspot.com/

And OMG, I just missed the best part - today's post which begins with:

"Three young attractive men (2 girls and one guy) accidentally met in reception room of famous healer. "

How do you define "men" these days anyway? Cracking up as I write this.

Yea those kinda blogs are a waste.. Granted I guess with enough of them you can build a bunch of traffic. It's also why I think morphing feeds in most cases suck.

Blogs like that are the same as the guys that use programs to generate thousands of pages with automated text and keyword stuffing. It's nothing more but useless spam.

If I build a RSS generated blog I only build it using good feeds. The feeds have to look good and make sense other wise I don't bother with them.

Call me picky but I also only like feeds that match (ie their layout).. So the posts need to look like they were writen for that site and not have 5 diffrent image sizes on one blog. For that reason when I build RSS generated blogs, I tend to make the blog they are used on for that specific site.

This is an example of a RSS fed blog that I build. ( blog ) It's part of a little test network I'm working on. The sites aren't finished but good enough to show and start pulling traffic.

I wont even use RSS feeds unless I can produce something that looks like what I just posted.

btw the RSS feeds I used on that site are from HighDefRiches.com

[Cozy Monica]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
Sado - Somewhere inside you sleeping man, rapist and villain. In issuing he visits. Beat girl optional, but if it is not opposed, though do look, if without a trace refuses to join with you in intimate relationships. A pair of apartment communities and stormy finale ensured."

This one made me laugh! Heehee!

[jonnydoe]

Originally posted by crockett
[b]Yea those kinda blogs are a waste.. Granted I guess with enough of them you can build a bunch of traffic.

A buddy of mine told me a bout a guy who has produced 200 sploggy free-hosted splogs...says he makes $100 a month on all of them combined.

[Cozy Monica]

That sounds like a lot of effort for 100 per month.

I'd rather work my ass off on a quality blog that has infinite earning potential.