Wordpress & RSS

[Mr Softy]

I have a wordpress blog and im using rss to grab articles, the problem is, when it gets the articles the user has to click read more... or continue.. it takes the user to the article site and away from mine. I do not want it to do this. Is there anyway i can make it just pull the full article to my site?

[razor]

its the way that the author of the article has set up their rss feed.

[Mr Softy]

darn looks like i need a new place to feed thanks.

[sunfunbill]

I've had a few discussions about this. If your trying to get a full article from a feed, with no way to link back, then your basically stealing that guy's content. How would you feel if someone copied your whole site and said it was theirs?

I have a few feeds I pull, but they are summeries and have a link back to the place they came from. If your site is a good site with plenty of your own content you do not have to worry about people leaving to look at the feeds, they will come back.

I have my own rss feed set up that way so no one can take all my post like you just said you wanted.

[theviking]

You could use wp-autoblog.
If i am nice (and sober) tomorrow i can upload it for you...stay tuned

[Mr Softy]

If someone jacked my whole site? Haha damn that takes balls, im not talking about taking somebody's site, but If someone stole my shit like an article i probably would not care that much, unless it was super original, sure it sucks but i've come to realize it's rampant and unstoppable in todays world. Unless im writing from the heart or worked hard knowing it was original material then i'd be pissed . Anyway what im saying is whatever i don't mind putting a link to the original article but.. the real problem is when the rss gets the article.. in order to read the full article you are forced to go to the article site. It's just looks weird like someone comes to my blog to read about music but to read the full post they have to go somewhere else. Id be pissed if i had to do that on someones blog. Besides jerking the reading around your losing money since they have to go to another site to read it.
wp-o-matic yeah i was looking that up early this morning. I will have to see if that can do what i need it to do. I will stay tuned thanks.

[Cozy Monica]

Most importantly, it doesn't matter what you feel about someone using your content, ALL content is copyright the moment it's created and you are not allowed to use it in full.

You can use an RSS feed to post a short quote or sample from the article and provide the link to the original, and that's it.

However, what you can do, like Bill said is write your own post about the article.

People won't be happy if you are taking their whole articles, even if you do link to their site.

Maybe there is some way to change the feed so that the links open in a new window?

[Mr Softy]

The site/sites id be getting these articles from are not personal sites they are article sites like goarticles.com. The articles are free to all..

[horney]

Then what's the point of them for you? They are already in the public domain, so how can you get any mileage out of them? You're "buying" used goods without any realistic resale value. Not even for marketing purposes, without a lot of effort.

Now, if you're going to rewrite them and add commentary, I can see where you're going. But What I read between your lines is a straight rip-off. That's a chain you are going to have to pull for yourself. It appears to be against the general ethics of this board.

Nothing is for nothing. You have to at least put some originality or imagination into it, even if you don't have money. The fact that someone offers a resource does not imply they are happy to assign originality, too.

[razor]

Originally posted by horney
Then what's the point of them for you? They are already in the public domain, so how can you get any mileage out of them? You're "buying" used goods without any realistic resale value. Not even for marketing purposes, without a lot of effort.

Now, if you're going to rewrite them and add commentary, I can see where you're going. But What I read between your lines is a straight rip-off. That's a chain you are going to have to pull for yourself. It appears to be against the general ethics of this board.

Nothing is for nothing. You have to at least put some originality or imagination into it, even if you don't have money. The fact that someone offers a resource does not imply they are happy to assign originality, too.

Sites like GoArticles are FREE article directories and it is perfectly acceptable to use articles provided as is. In fact it is unethical for a website publisher to change/alter the article as you suggest.

Articles must be published with the author's bio details.

[horney]

On the face of it, yes, razor. But, using goarticles.com as one example, their publishers' guidelines state specific conditions and attempts to prevent effortless sidestepping of those should hardly come as a surprise.

Not least of those conditions is the requirement to also publish the resource box for each article, with hyperlinks. See also sunfunbill's comment.

Whilst Mr Softy is correct in so far as stating there are a lot or rogues and thieves out there, I can hardly see that as an excuse for joining them. Nor, indeed, for throwing hands in the air and telling them to just get on with it.

My main points hold. You can't change the article so I was wrong in that instance, but there's lots more you can do (see also Cozy Monica's comment) and there's very little you can do or get without effort.

[sunfunbill]

The whole thing always has and always will come down to the same thing, If you want to make something good and worthwhile, do it yourself. I know there are people on this board that copy/paste and outright steal content for blogs. All you have to do is read between the lines when they ask certain questions.

As long as they don't come right out and say "hey, what's the best way to copy someone else's stuff" then I'm not going to get in an argument with them, but I still don't like it. Blogs are work, more so then galleries and stuff. Many come into the porn biz thinking it's easy money, and when they have to start putting in effort they try to copy others and/or take the easy way out.

I suck balls at making TGP's and free sites. So I could have just copied others, but I didn't. I simply knew it was not for me. Blogs, I know how to do, and I'm good at them, so that is what I'll do. If your not good at blogs, then like any job your not good at, don't do it.

I have a whole page called news where it's nothing but rss feeds. It is the latest transgender news from around the world. Each one is a summary with a link to the original source. It's a way of providing a sevice to my readers. Most all big blogs do that. If you don't want your readers to leave your site, don't use rss, that simple. If you want to steal an article, why use rss? Just go to the damn page and copy/paste it.

We all bend the rules, taking this idea, "borrowing" this or that. But post are the main guts of a blog and should not be copied. If you want to make a blog, do the work yourself. If your not good at it, find something else to do.

[Mr Softy]

"If you don't want your readers to leave your site, don't use rss, that simple. If you want to steal an article, why use rss? Just go to the damn page and copy/paste it."


Like i said these articles are free, so im not sure how much it matters if i "rip them off" or "steal an article" as you say.. if there are free i don't feel there is any issue. You say just go to the page and copy/paste it.. yeah sure but that would take alot of time and defeats the very purpose of making the blog in the first place. I want it to be an autoblog and have the cron update it daily. It's not a blog thats about quality or orignal material. It's about an automatic blog that people may stumble upon in a search engine an click on some adsense that's all.

[horney]

What's the point 0f us posting replies to help you if you're not going to read them, or at least only note those parts you like to hear.

I've even given you a link to the terms of one such site. It states very specifically it is not so free-for-all as you would have us believe.

Or is that one of the bits you don't wish to hear?

[odysseus]

I don't want to get too much into a heated debate here, but I'll offer my opinion as someone who has used free articles before, and used them according the the TOS of the site I got them from.

1) The articles are only free in a monetary sense. You are in fact paying for the article if you consider that the author is indeed receiving some benefit (consider it barter). The author is getting their work out there, but more importantly they are receiving a links back to a site (depending on which free article resource you are using, I haven't used goarticles.com). This link building is important for the SEO of the site they are requiring a link back to and is part of their overall SEO strategy. So, it's theoretically a symbiotic relationship. You get content, they get inbound links from many different IP's supposedly with relevant anchor text. So, the articles are not really free, and since they are part of someone else's SEO strategy, it does matter if you rip them off, steal the article, or just change a word here or there. Just because something is free, doesn't mean it's not protected by copyright.

2) I can't say much for the usefulness of these articles. I have a mainstream site that I was intending to populate entirely with free articles and see how it did with SE traffic. Now, I haven't really done anything with the site, but I'm inclined to believe that with a boat load of duplicate content, my SEO efforts would have been in vain anyhow. Just a hunch. I've let it sit, and it has earned 0 dollars in adsense.

It boils down to what everyone has said, work is work.

That said, there are ways to make a site like you are mentioning. A simple SE site with a focus on adsense. I know someone who has made just a single build it and forget it adsense site. It's SEO'ed, uses some CMS like PHPNuke (but really doesn't need it because nothing is dynamic, it could be a static HTML page, but the guy likes to play with geek stuff) That site alone makes him about 600 give or take a month in adsense. Nothing to get rich from, but he has done no other work on it. Probably spent a few days a couple years ago setting it up. He has a few sites like this. I think sometimes people get hooked on the blog thing and forget that some of the old school stuff still works.

[sunfunbill]

Well, now we know that it's not a blog he's making, it's a splog. So in that case I don't wish to throw any more words around. Go make your splog any way you please then. We never have enough of those.

[Cozy Monica]

Regardless, I'm not sure you can do anything to change the RSS feed to make it format the way you want.

I don't know a lot about RSS so I could be wrong. From what I gather, the person publishing the RSS tells it what format they want it to take... and you have no control over it.