Non Adult Need Help & Advice

[Mr Softy]

Are there any kind souls out there? I really could use some help. I been down and out for a number of years on disability. Im new to making money online. I need some feedback and opinons. I want to register a clickbank account as well as adsense but im afraid my disability checks could be in danger. I can't afford to lose the checks but im really excited to try to make some money.. i feel i want to make a living online. Im just scared because im new to it. My idea is to make a bunch of sites and when i have enough to say i will without a doubt make cash, thats when i want to put them all up. Just got a blogger account, really enjoying that but that could take a bit. Blogging takes awhile for me. Gonna adsense it later on. Anyway earlier tonight i got a free .tk site and free hosting at gigacities there's an ad at the top of my site but it's really not that bad. Well it's good enough for right now. So im hoping some people can maybe help me out with clickbank. Like whats the proper way to promote clickbank products? I want to master the clickbank scenario before i move on to my adult project which i have already started. Its coming along nicely but i don't have the money for more picture sets right now or paid hosting. Thats exactly why im doing clickbank first to make some money. Really thankful for anything anyone can show me.
thanks
rob

[timelord]

I want to register a clickbank account as well as adsense but im afraid my disability checks could be in danger. I can't afford to lose the checks

Then don't do it dude.

[wrbpilot]

Originally posted by timelord
Then don't do it dude.

Good Day Softy!!!

This depends on what kind of disability checks you're getting. You need to contact whoever runs the disability program you're covered by to find out if it will affect you. I used to work for Social Security and the SS Disability program had provisions for a trial work period to allow people to see if they can handle the work they are thinking about. Most VA benefits are based on your ability to perform military service and would not be affected by civilian work. However I am not an expert on disability programs so you should do some homework on the effects of work on your disability benefits.

Wrbpilot

[Hammer]

A free hosted site on Gigacities is never going to make you any money no matter what you promote.

[Mr Softy]

Hammer, just curious as to why that is, and what some better options would be since im broke. Thanks

Rob

[mynameisjim]

I agree with the other post, you need to contact whoever it is that is supplying the disability checks and find out what you can and can't do before moving forward.

With that being said, you could always put the accounts in the name of a brother or sister or very good friend. I'm not suggesting you do this, but it is an option.

As for hosting, you can pick up a virtual account for as low as $5/month so save up a bit and you should be able to swing that even on the tightest budget.

[Hammer]

Originally posted by Mr Softy
Hammer, just curious as to why that is, and what some better options would be since im broke. Thanks

Rob

If you're broke this business is not for you. The idea that someone with zero experience can start with zero money and spend zero money and make some money is a pipe dream.

[timelord]

If you're broke this business is not for you. The idea that someone with zero experience can start with zero money and spend zero money and make some money is a pipe dream.

I whole heartedly agree with that.

As I say Rob, you mention not wanting to risk your disability payments, so my advice is the same 'don't do it'.

This game requires burn money and at least a year of work before you see any real results. It takes another year in general to start seeing a ROI (if you're lucky).

[Mr Softy]

damn i posted this in wrong thread tried to delete but couldn't figure i would say something since i cant delete, im going to respond to this post but i got another issue right now. Thanks

[Mr Softy]

I realize you gotta be dedicated for a long time before you see real results. It's just im in a bad funk currently, so thats why im testing the waters with free options. Not to stick with the free stuff forever but to learn how to use the shit without needlessly wasting money until i get comfortable with my output. Then i will spend the money. Hammer, i think you took it the wrong way. I understand why sometimes you guys get pissed, but i don't think i deserved the newbie stomp.. Im not looking for handouts, but i am new to all this stuff and there is so many aspects of everything. Anyway though i was talking about adsense NOT adult sites. Like one thing im thinking, now this might be dumb i dunno.. you tell me.. ok you say i can't make money with any free hosting how is this though, because it's not like your average joe surfer is going to be like hey im want to see where the site is hosted. Lets do a whois. Who doe's that? Even if people did, most people wouldn't, and most people couldn't give a shit where it's hosted. I dunno maybe i got the wrong idea.. like i said you tell me why it's dumb, because im new and don't realize why it is. I think your answer might be like having to do with when you submit your site, they frown on the free hosting?, but is that all places or are there some that it is acceptable? Thanks, lets not get stressed, everyone has their own way of doing things. Your far more advanced and experienced. Im just starting out & I've got alot of mistakes to make before i get good at this.


Peace
Rob

[Hammer]

Originally posted by Mr Softy IHammer, i think you took it the wrong way. I understand why sometimes you guys get pissed, but i don't think i deserved the newbie stomp.

Dude, if you call what I said to you in this thread a "stomp" your skin is WAY too thin for this business.

Based on the rest of your reply I'd say you don't care to hear any advice anyway but the point we were all trying to make is that someone that is on a fixed income and disability should not be spending any of that money on gambling and that's exactly what you'd be doing. The other point we tried to make is that even though free hosting gives you a chance to learn how to build sites without spending any money, you will never be able to do the important part ant that's generate traffic to that site.

Suppose you use a free host and eventually create the most amazing site anyone has ever seen? What then? The site won't make you a dime until people know about it so at what point would you start trying to submit galleries and freesites to see if you can generate some traffic? You can't do it on a freehost because no one will list your sites. At some point you'll have to spend some money and the odds are not in your favor that you won't lose that money when you do.

The important part of this business is not knowing how to design a website, any monkey can do that with some training. The important thing is learning how to market the site and generate traffic and doing that without spending any money will take years. You can't even get a TGP gallery listed on any decent TGP anymore without spending money becuase almost all of the good ones have gone to paid submissions. Do you have $100 a month to pay to submit galleries to Shemp or any other good TGP? And that would just be for one TGP. Most webmasters submit galleries to a lot more than one TGP.

[Mr Softy]

Really? Is submitting sites that difficult? Personally i feel making the sites is the hard part. Id assume to submit you would just need cash. Do most webmasters use a submiter like chameleon or something similar? Or do they just submit manually? Oh yeah marketing, thats mainly when you design the site though right? Like if you got a site with japanese chicks and you say "The Finest Oriental Women This Side of Bangkok" That would be some of the marketing for it. Im not sure i should be asking about Submiting right now, trying to learn how to do everything else first. I have to admit though, that i do have questions about it.

[timelord]

Softy, why bother asking for advice if all you're going to do is ignore it?

You're med's are clouding your reason dude.

I was going to write a detailed response pointing out the flaw in your rationale, but I'd likely be wasting my time.

[wrbpilot]

[quote]Originally posted by Hammer
[b]Dude, if you call what I said to you in this thread a "stomp" your skin is WAY too thin for this business.

hammer is actually cutting you some slack. If you want to go into ANY business you are going to incur some degree of risk. No strain, no pain, no gain applies to this business just as much as any another biz. If you do not have any money to invest, i e risk, stay out of any business venture. People that go into business for themselves make more money to compensate them for the added risk and expenses they take on by venturing out on their own.

Wrbpilot

[Mr Softy]

You got me figured wrong. I said it before and i''ll say it again I am going to invest money just like everyone else, but not at this moment because im learning how to do things. Im not sure why im getting attacked. Would you invest money in a business idea if you didnt know what the hell you were doing? Am i not making sense? People for some reason assume im not going to invest money because i said i was starting with free options. When im confident in my skills i will invest in the things im going to need. What i said in the first post changed a bit im not doing clickbank right now. Also what i said about making a bunch of sites and doing it all at once, it's just stupid. I was excited that night because i was progressing. Sorry if i got carried away.

[mynameisjim]

Mr Softy, you're stubborn and tenacious, which is good because you'll need those qualities later.

As for this thread, all the advice given is pretty good so make sure to digest it and give it some thought. I know it seems like people jumped on you a bit but really it wasn't too bad. And if you thought that was rough just wait till you submit your first URL for us to look at.

[Mr Softy]

Thanks, haha yeah i know i will take one hell of a beating that day but i look forward to it anyway.

[Hammer]

Originally posted by Mr Softy
Oh yeah marketing, thats mainly when you design the site though right?

[sunfunbill]

Hey Mr Softy, don't mind Hammer, he is honest and gives good advice, but he'd never make it writing hallmark cards:
"Sorry to hear your not feeling well, now get the f**K up and stop whining, lying there does not make you money"!

I think it's just we can see you have a lot to learn, and the advice we give now is stuff you will learn yourself if you make it. You need to step back and study more before you do anymore work. Your trying to fly the plane before doing the written test so to speak.

Go here:
http://www.cozyacademy.com/
And read up on all that. It's porn related but also applies to mainstream. What is really important is to really understand the traffic angle. No traffic=no money. If you had gold to give away but had it in your basement with no signs, no one would take it.

So it is with websites. You think about how your going to get traffic first, then incorporate it into what your doing.

Hope this helps. Come back in a month after all that reading and I am sure you will see the light.