Feeder Sites & Splogs

[phuckbunny]

While I've been working on more long term projects the other day I thought why not follow Viking's advice from several months back which was, for every blog, build ten or so splogs to point to your real blog, not to mention the extra hits to your sponsors, natch.

Took me a couple of hours to put together a keyword rich splog filled with basic run of the mill porn copy and some images, for one of my better converting sponsors. Submitted to Twan's directories and I thought if this works, I'll probably get faster at it and build a splog a day or so.

I've only built one splog before, on a free host (sensual writer b/c while I know thumblogger is a great program, I'm much more comfortable with just using sth based on WP - I can navigate WP with my eyes closed by now). Anyway, that one still gets me around 150-200 uniques a day, which is great for a high converting sponsors, and I haven't update it once. Thing is, well, the good thing is, is that most of those hits come from SE and help get me sales I'm sure.

But from that splog I put together on Monday, submitted to Twan that night, got listed etc etc, all my hits are coming from the directories with zero SE traffic. Is this normal for google not to crawl me for 4 days? Domain does not show up when I punch it into google, and I only got about 20 uniques today all from the directories.

I know it's always better to have your own domain. My good blogs as a counterpoint are getting about 2K daily. But what seems to be the problem with just picking up a little bit of SE traffic for the splogs? Is the goog such a genius algo that it can really tell a splog from a blog? Any search query will provide a definitive no to that.

Any ideas/suggestions?

[theviking]

There was a huge bash in google a couple months back where loads of bloggers lost a great amount of traffic, and a few gained some traffic.

I'd belive that google have downgraded free hosted blogs, and especially new ones, without me knowing this for sure.

Ya see... those advices giving two months back can pretty well allready be outdated

[phuckbunny]

Trying to keep up with the times. Since Google thinks it's God, there's no reason for them not to downgrade every single free hosted blog that allows adult content.

[theviking]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
Trying to keep up with the times. Since Google thinks it's God, there's no reason for them not to downgrade every single free hosted blog that allows adult content.

Just remember....google is not the only se out there, and twans directories is not the only way to get traffic to feeder blogs

[Hammer]

You can't expect every blog to get SE traffic, especially splogs. Also, Google traffic is much better for a site that has a good PR rating and the chances of any of your feeder splogs acheiving a high PR are slim.

[phuckbunny]

So do you think it's kind of a waste of time? I'm trying to figure that out myself.

[artwilliams]

Pardon my ignorance, what are "Twan's directories"? Thanks.

Originally posted by phuckbunny
While I've been working on more long term projects the other day I thought why not follow Viking's advice from several months back which was, for every blog, build ten or so splogs to point to your real blog, not to mention the extra hits to your sponsors, natch.

Took me a couple of hours to put together a keyword rich splog filled with basic run of the mill porn copy and some images, for one of my better converting sponsors. Submitted to Twan's directories and I thought if this works, I'll probably get faster at it and build a splog a day or so.

I've only built one splog before, on a free host (sensual writer b/c while I know thumblogger is a great program, I'm much more comfortable with just using sth based on WP - I can navigate WP with my eyes closed by now). Anyway, that one still gets me around 150-200 uniques a day, which is great for a high converting sponsors, and I haven't update it once. Thing is, well, the good thing is, is that most of those hits come from SE and help get me sales I'm sure.

But from that splog I put together on Monday, submitted to Twan that night, got listed etc etc, all my hits are coming from the directories with zero SE traffic. Is this normal for google not to crawl me for 4 days? Domain does not show up when I punch it into google, and I only got about 20 uniques today all from the directories.

I know it's always better to have your own domain. My good blogs as a counterpoint are getting about 2K daily. But what seems to be the problem with just picking up a little bit of SE traffic for the splogs? Is the goog such a genius algo that it can really tell a splog from a blog? Any search query will provide a definitive no to that.

Any ideas/suggestions?

[phuckbunny]

Twan is an outstanding fellow who runs free blog hosting services - thumblogger and sensualwriter and he's also got blog directories which are great for both instant traffic and instant PR, but alas, alack, as I was writing, my splog experiment seems to be getting zero SE traffic since a week from when I published. Since I only spent about 2 hrs on it, not a big deal but I'm waiting to see if I get any SE traffic otherwise I'll spend my time on something else.

[theviking]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
Since I only spent about 2 hrs on it, not a big deal but I'm waiting to see if I get any SE traffic otherwise I'll spend my time on something else.

I'd say you shouldn't spend more than 30min.s to set up a splog.
If you set up one every day, you will find that once in a while some of them are kicking in the se's as well.
My best splog did well over 20K from google each day, and even if that have been the only one it still gave me a good return from the half hour i was spending each day

But allso bear in mind my other answer above....it might get harder and harder to get that one splog kick in, and in the end it is only you that desides how you will spend youre time online.

[phuckbunny]

Good advice, Vike. I can probably get it down to 30 mins when it becomes more like clockwork. Or should I say COCKwork. Yuk yuk yuk....

I have no idea how you got a splog to do 20K a day and I won't ask. Surely it must have been a while ago.

[theviking]

Originally posted by phuckbunny

I have no idea how you got a splog to do 20K a day and I won't ask. Surely it must have been a while ago.

Actually, it was more like 27K / day, but appx. 20 only from google

and no, it's not that long ago.

[phuckbunny]

THAT is amazing. Are you sure you're not pulling my leg? If I got 20K to a splog I could quit my day job tomorrow.

[theviking]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
THAT is amazing. Are you sure you're not pulling my leg? If I got 20K to a splog I could quit my day job tomorrow.

The referral script stalled at me, but this was the stats the last day it worked (at the bottom of the blog)
http://blackmonstercock.thumblogger.com/

The splog is abandoned and dead for long, and the keywords are eaten by other parasites, so no nead to keep it "secret" anymore

edit: It still got a PR4, so if you want some linktrades.... lol

[razor]

Pb, how many post in a splog? Once you setup a splog do you ever update it?

[mynameisjim]

The days of the quickie thumblogger splog ended several months ago.

You can still build a blog with thumblogger that doesn't get killed instantly, but you have to be a little clever.

[DosTwo]

Splogs should be push button. There is no reason to spend any time setting up anything that is not sustainable.

[Moustache Larry]

I've been setting up some rss fed splogs for the past few days as well.. Using wordpress, wp-o-matic, all-in-one-seo-pack, and some other tools.. And my main site has pretty much degredated into a splog at this point too.. I can say i've gotten hardly any hits from search engines at all. I'm wondering if they rate against the rss fed postings?

I'd like to know your promo methods when promoting one of these splogs, to those who bang them out weekly. Like perhaps a list or methodology to submitting them to directories... or any other hints.


I've been copying the linkex from my first site, deleting the non blog directory sites, and then just clicking them and manually adding the new splog.

[theviking]

Originally posted by Moustache Larry

I'd like to know your promo methods when promoting one of these splogs, to those who bang them out weekly. Like perhaps a list or methodology to submitting them to directories... or any other hints.

- Directories
- Toplists
- Linkdumps
- LinkLists (Be sure to read rules)
- Feedlists
- Picposts
- A tube submit
- Surfer forums
- Any yahoo or google group
- Social bookmarking sites (other than the tubes)
- run the link on a couple freesites
- Any traffic network (like picrush)
- Put up a few links from youre exisiting splogs.

You should have a pretty much automated site after running through that list.

[razor]

Viking, Does it make sense to use a plugin like lazyblog to rotate your posts and keep getting se hits.

[porn punk]

Originally posted by phuckbunny
THAT is amazing. Are you sure you're not pulling my leg? If I got 20K to a splog I could quit my day job tomorrow.

No you couldn't. Take my word for it. You can get 20k in a day like nothing and it might not mean anything. You won't even rate significantly on Alexa if it drops back to your normal traffic rate the next day.

Then you can go masturbate for a week and do no work at all and not even promote your site and come back with 1:150 ratio and it won't mean shit because you got 150 hits.

To elaborate this is what I hate about ratio bullshit. I don't care what my ratio is if I get enough sign ups. I'm assuming your figuring your 20k traffic is going to keep you at the same ratio as if you weren't getting that and it's not. I don't care what anyone tells you and it should do you much better if you're only getting 1k a day, but don't assume it's going to do what you think base on this bullshit marketing math.

You have to find the middle ground.

I have all kinds of traffic coming in from everywhere right now and it's really not changing things a whole lot. Maybe it will it the future with recurring sales and stuff, and that's good but I'm not about to depend on it.

The high traffic is merely incidental and if you're running tgp's and submissions sites, can be a benefit, but not necessarily a positive result.

I'm not saying it won't work or help you and it's better than doing nothing, but think of the competition you're competing with to draw in that kind of traffic. Everyone has the same sponsers and are promoting the same thing so this is when you're ratio goes from 1:1000 to about 1:2500.

If you don't believe me, just go buy some traffic and send it to your splog.

But don't let this make you discount splogging. I get sign ups from it all the time.