anyone used adbrite before?

[balls_deep]

has anyone used adbrite before?

any recommendations or personal experiences?

http://www.adbrite.com/

[theviking]

DO_NOT_USE_IT

Even with ratios streight down the toilet you will do better with any pps sponsor any day.
If you MUST use contextual ad's make yourself some tables and link to sponsors or to youre own sites.

[Hammer]

I think using a PPC text ad sponsor is a good idea myself. Obviously you wouldn't use PPC to the exclusion of other sponsors but what's wrong with sticking it in the sidebar of a blog? You can't use Adsense on an adult site but you can use Adbrite and a couple others.

Now, as to your question about Adbrite specifically I've never had much luck with them and their customer service is non existent.

[theviking]

Originally posted by Hammer
I think using a PPC text ad sponsor is a good idea myself.

If you have good experience with using adbrite on any site, please let us know.

As a buyer you mainly get the shittiest traffic money can buy and as a publisher you would make a lot of work changing files you will change back after a week or two.....but by all mean.. try it

"PPC" can be made by yourself.
Just load the html in youre ad engine.

[SharkFace]

I could not even get adbrite to work properly, the site sucks. My personal recomendation is Adengage, I had a lot of success buying ads with them.

[Cozy Monica]

Can't you also use Adbrite to find places that you might want to pay for advertising? A long long time ago, they actually used to be useful for this, but I have no idea about nowadays.

As for setting yourself up to sell advertising space on your sites, I have to agree and say DO NOT DO IT. You should be using all of your advertising spaces yourself to sell for sponsors. You will make a lot more money this way. Nobody will pay you as much as you can make from sponsors.

[balls_deep]

i was looking at it more for advertising, thanks for the advice

[mynameisjim]

About 2 or 3 years ago I bought ads on adbrite. The traffic was garbage and that was with mainstream. I know with adwords you are dealing with probably around 10% click fraud and I doubt adbrite uses anything close to what google does as far as catching it. So fraud is probably 50% or higher.

For publishers, it cant hurt, but for advertisers I would say stay away unless they have made huge changes.

[phuckbunny]

If you have a site with a lot of traffic but very low sales, I don't see a reason not to sell advertising space, no?

[Hammer]

I can't figure out why some of you are saying don't do it. No one is suggesting that you should not advertise your sponsors site but it simply makes sense to monitiize a site in any way possible. A blog with plenty of advertising for good pps sponsor sites sure isn't going to make less because they also sell ad space.

[phuckbunny]

The Hammer has spoken.

I was confused why people were so against it. The only reason I could think of would be if it would somehow fuck up your design, loading up a tonne of banners, sure, but how can a text link do that?
Of course you don't want your site to end up an eyesore. You also sell space where you want to sell it in terms of positioning. I'm going to look into this once I get more traffic. Do you think 3K uniques/day is enough to sign up with adengage etc?

[sunfunbill]

Hammer, the blog I am making, it will be hopefully a big place with lots of info for the cross dresser, trans-genders and so on. It will have links to porn, at least down the road. But if it has no actual porn showing on any pages, could I use google's AdSense? The ads that would pop up on a site like that would be very niche specific, so I assume I would get lots of clicks.

[mynameisjim]

Adwords TOS says you can't run adwords on any site that contains pornography. It doesn't say you can't link to porn. Could be a grey area though since google does as it pleases.

[DosTwo]

Balls_Deep:

I am currently driving about 10k hits to supplement my traffic a day via interstitial to a site driven purely by cpm. It is doing well but the industry I am in allows for CPMs as high as 35 USD.

The problem is when it comes to conversion. The quality of the traffic is fucked and I wouldn't waste my time trying to convert it. A lot of it is from file sharing sites where people have access to full site scrapes etc.

I used to run some adbrite to adsense arbitrage and it nearly got me booted from adsense for click fraud.

I'd avoid it if possible.

Sunfunbill:

If you are looking to really pop your adsense payout I would recommend no more than one ad block per page or else you are giving your surfers a chance to click lower paying ads.

When you write your blog posts try to think of each post as its own page and tailor that post to pop the correct adsense ad on its permalink. This will allow you to target money terms and optimize your adsense income.

[DosTwo]

Originally posted by mynameisjim
Could be a grey area though since google does as it pleases.

Tell me about it. Google just shit canned one of my sites today for a TOS violation and cut my monthly income by enough to piss me off.

I saw it coming last week though so it wasn't a shocker.

[Hammer]

Yes, Phuckbunny, 3k is enough to sell ads using AdEngage.

FYI, AdEngage allows publishers to choose whether they want to post text ads only, text and photo ads, or just photo ads. I guarantee you that if you run photo/text ads with a hot photo next to the text that you'll get lots of clicks if you place the ads strategically.

If you are making an average of $.10 per click with AdEngage links you're looking at $30 for every 300 clicks and I doubt you're going to find too many pps sponsors that work better than that.

Bill, the thing is that if you read Google's Adsense TOS it doesn't just say "pornography" it says "pornography, adult, or mature content". It also lists excessive profanity, so a site with an obviously adult or sexual nature, even if it doesn't have any nude photos is still likely to violate their TOS.

Now, if your site was a community site with information for the transgendered community that would be one thing, but as soon as you start putting up links to porn sites, I think your going to run into a problem.

[sunfunbill]

Thanks everyone for the info. I guess Once my site is up I'll see if google will let me use adsense. If they don't fine. If they do, but down the road once I add more "mature" stuff they kick me out, fine. Can't hurt to ask, and cost nothing. Also I'll let everyone here know what they say in case someone else wants to know.

[Hammer]

Here's an example of a site using AdEngage ads and the photo/text link option. They list videos and the first one on the page is actually not a link to a video but a link to an AdEngage advertiser. Do you think that first link gets clicked on a lot?

http://fightdump.com/

In the right sidebar are more AdEngage links with photos next to them. They get clicked on a lot too.

Now, if you're asking yourself how I know this... I advertise on that site. So, yes Viking, I have tried it and yest, it does work from both the advertiser's side and the publsher's side.