anyone run site without php or mysql knowledge

[nolimits4]

newbie here

just learning photoshop and html,css


my problem is i think php and mysql may be too much of a learning curve to learn


is php and mysql necessary when building a site?

for those who run sites what areas should have focus on beside the obvious marketing lol?

[balls_deep]

php and mysql are very powerful tools and you probably won't need to know too much to implement them in your site. Most sites run prewritten scripts that have already coded the functions for you in php. The most you would need to do is read a program manual and figure out how to call the functions you want. This would also depend on what type of site you are planning to make. Blogs, linklist, toplist, and TGP's all run on programs that have been prewritten in php or a similar language.

You can learn a lot of useful info at the cozy academy

http://www.cozyacademy.com/

[twan]

Originally posted by nolimits4

is php and mysql necessary when building a site?

It depends greatly on what kind of site you are going to build. Can you shed some light on this subject?

[Cozy Monica]

In my experience, you need to know VERY little to make most sites work with php and sql. The hardest thing you may face is installing scripts properly, and you should be able to get help doing so from your hosting company.

[theviking]

I think i had around 150 sites up and running without even knowing html, so no....there is no need to know it, but you will understand more of what you are doing if you eventually read up on it.

[phuckbunny]

I'm a noob but here's my two kopecks du jour. PHP is the next html. It's not as easy to learn but as others said you probably don't need to know any of it, just know what it is. SQL is for database management language which you also don't need to worry about. As Balls said, most of the scripts you will be using have already been written for you; what you may wish to do if you're interested and/or have the gumption is to look into some basic info on unix and shells so that when you're talking to your hosting co's tech support you have some idea of what they need to do in order to install and manage these scripts. Basically that just means that even some perfunctory web research on what these programs do will help you understand what your tech guy does when it comes to installing your scripts and making them work.

You can like Viking said, even build a hundred sites with a wysiwig html editor like dreamweaver, but the more knowledge you can gain the better, but I wouldn't freak out about. Just don't have a heart attack when someone says "OK, now just CHMOD 777" like I almost did the first time I heard that. No I know what the tech guys need to know and what they do, sort of, but some research and reading definitely helped me find a common language with these guys.

If you have shell access and some basic understanding of unix commands you can install the scripts yourself. If not, you can have the tech guys do it for you, but it still helps if you know what you're asking them to do in greater detail.

In my experience, for the most part to get a site up and running, requires zero knowledge of php and/or sql (depending on the site of course but I'm guessing youre not looking to start with something very advanced in which case if you were I would hire someone else to do it). But you should know what those programming languages are for and what they do, that's all.

[mynameisjim]

If it came down to choosing between marketing knowledge and PHP/sql knowledge I would pick marketing everytime.

Like was said before, you can build an entire network of sites with virtually no technical knowldege these days. If you're smart you will learn it anyway along the the way without even trying.

I would say hone your marketing and creative skills and leave the heavy coding to the egg heads.

[Fritz]

I'll just through my 2 cents in...

When I first started being interested in building websites, I didn't know any code what so ever. Used Frontpage for the longest time.

Found out about Dreamweaver and once I played around with it, it really taught me about building sites.

You can go into the tutorials and it will tell you step by step how to build advanced php/mysql sites by complete point and click, no need to type code. Thats how I learned php/mysql. Now I can go in and edit code, add it, change it, whatever I want. Just from using Dreamweaver and learning.

Dreamweaver is fantastic for people who don't know code but want to keep up with the times.

[nolimits4]

thanks you guys are help. i am trying tol get a paysite going i have been reading cozy articles and this site

[balls_deep]

Originally posted by nolimits4
thanks you guys are help. i am trying tol get a paysite going i have been reading cozy articles and this site

I suggest that you try and market someone else's site as an affiliate first. This will give you knowledge of the industry and some money in the process. If you can't sell someone else's site then you won't be able to sell your own.

A paysite is a major venture and I think you should try the above route before sinking a ton of money into it without any return.

[theviking]

Originally posted by balls_deep

A paysite is a major venture...

Not really, but i think people automatically thinks that if you build a paysite there have to be a affiliate program attached to it, wich is not a fact.

[phuckbunny]

I think the 'major venture' deal depends on the paysite's content and originality OR great expertise in marketing rehashed easily purchased content.